Reading my last post, a friend comments:
Do you really think we can’t have definitions and poetry?
I
suppose it depends on the spirit of the definition and its type. If the
definition is used to erase, abort, short circuit, replace a
feeling-sensing soul-process, then it’s truly problematic, i think.
Hillman critiqued the Jungians this way, because of their habit of
symbolically interpreting dreams, and thus determining the meaning of
the dream. Hillman said (as an example, think of a nightmare with a
scary monster), to paraphrase, ’stay with the dream figure, re-enter
the dream, feel the energy, re-enter the story.’ In other words the
reason the figure appeared is to relate to you, there is a ‘face’ of
psyche – and the face – the actual FACE in the WORLD is the depth. Not,
“oh, that dream figure is actually a figuration of Hades, and you are
in the underworld, and, and and – so the dream MEANS, ta da.”
James Hillman:
Both
Freud and Jung had enormously rich, huge backgrounds in classical
studies. They were engaged in the study of romantic philosophy, they
read Goethe. I always used to tell students in Zurich, if you want to
study Jung, don’t read Jung, read the books he read. You see, this is
completely lost in psychology today. Nobody reads literature and
philosophy. They just read psychology . . . what has happened to many
Jungians. They’ve lost the capacity or willingness to think very
critically. I don’t know. They just read fairy tales. Everything is so
damn internal! You especially see this in the way popular culture has
come to understand Jung. Everything is literalized. Everything’s about
my internal life. The whole point of Jung’s approach is to give free
rein to thought, to give the freedom to investigate the different
aspects of phenomena. . . . Jung’s gift: the cultural perspective. It
[Jungian psychologists] puts it [psychotherapy] deeper into the therapy
room. Jung was running around the world talking to Africans and
Indians.
I just can’t emphasize enough how much Jung – and
Freud – were looking at culture. Jung said psyche is in the world, not
inside ourselves. There’s that constantly repeated criticism he made
that in modern life, the gods – the voices of the world’s psyche –
became diseases . . . This whole idea of “inside” and “projection” is
suspicious. Jung knew this. Psyche is in the world. So, the gods are in
the world. We are in the world. . . . the way we have banished the gods
from consciousness has made what they represented diseases. This is why
I have an irresistible urge to attack Christianity whenever I write.
Christianity insisted on one god, one voice and everything else is a
sin or a disease. The erotic, the Dionysian – all banished to the
shadow. I think we all well know the effects of this.
Hillman
takes an aesthetically creative, phenomenological approach to
psychology. In his books on feeling, he discusses how modern western
culture seems to fear hanging out in feeling; meaning can really act as
a swift pill, where following feeling and attending to psychic figures
and poetic images directly, letting them “speak,” allowing interaction
will not always provide the quick solution, or yield a quick meaning.
The
point is, when you substitute (literal) MEANING for FEELING the STORY
ends. Actually the dream ends, its inroads of communication. Because
you have analyzed and “solved” it; you know what it MEANS so the
FACE(s) in and of the dream which CAUSE the feeling – become secondary,
fade into a background context-category of “solved dreams.”
This
story about dreams and dream figures is itself a metaphor for life – in
that how we relate to dreams, especially unpleasant ones – the ones
that are more difficult to deal with, feel with, stay with – may be
similar to how we relate to daily-life experiences.
Normally,
DEFINITION is an explanation which determines WHAT SOMETHING REALLY IS.
And it implies that whatever isn’t covered by the definition, IT IS
NOT. Certainly, FACES cannot be defined at all, and neither can
metaphors – they resist definition, as they resist reductions of
dimension.
I
am not against definitions in all cases, not at all. Definitions
clarify and organize concept and thought. They are obviously useful.
But the idea of Peck’s psycho-spiritual definition of love – I find
that misplaced. It severely reduces human experience – I mean,
Shakespeare! That’s where you can get close to definitions of love – in
sonnets and dialogues of persons as poems; meetings face to face.
I
read Peck on love as pop-psych. of the sort I dislike. At the same
time, his concepts, conceived as intermediate organizational
structures, may be of aid when a person’s confused, in need of
psychological reductions – needing to find a measure of certainty and
organized structure in psychological space – but I really detest Peck’s
unconditional language – his authorial expressions of certainty seem
arrogant.
When Hillman is talking about the faces and figures
of (the) psyche, his rhetoric may seem to impart certainty too – but
it’s quite a different sort of certainty – because his arguments point
towards INDIVIDUAL PHENOMENOLOGICAL PROCESS. This is not a definitional
endpoint, it’s about process and experience and facing that, getting
into it. Hillman’s, and my interest too, is to point toward living
images, towards the non-abstract, the para-conceptual; the poetry of
life, which is non-literal, because any FACE is capable of a multitude
of definitions. Non-literality (the de-literalization of the ego
function) implies that there cannot be ONE DEFINITION which crowds out
others on the plane of meaning, as regards the psyche.
So
there are definitions which CLOSE YOU IN and definitions WHICH ARE
EXPANSIVE, that are indicative. This sort of logic does not exclude
scientific definition, but does relativize it. Increasingly, I read how
mood is really brain chemicals, how behavior is really genes – are you
happy with such mechanistic-deterministic definitions? The idea that
presence and the act of psyche is mysterious, and that mystery itself,
the mystery of being, is something plain and ordinary and worth our
attendance and interest – not newsworthy.
In
Zen there is the instruction which says, “don’t mistake the finger for
the moon,” and this seems to be exactly the problem with some types of
definitions – they intrinsically announce (like Peck’s) I AM THE MOON -
I AM IT. THIS IS TRUE. But his stuff is really just a bunch of
finger-pointing. What makes it atrocious for me isn’t the ‘pointing
out’ aspect, so much as the implied “my finger IS the moon” aspect.
Definitions that know they are pointers, that encourage you,
intrinsically, to look beyond the finger, past the concept – there is a
great expansiveness in these. This is why I like late Heidegger, for instance his, “Poetry, Language, Thought,” composed of poetic definitions of the deepest sort. Each one sends you on. Check it out.
How to poetically dwell upon the Earth (as Goethe and Heidegger and Hillman, and Jung too, speak of).
There
are clues, intentions and practical doings, choices of
conceptualization, energy and time which can be made. I wish to bring
the unique forth, into the central light to be known.

Here is a face:
If it was only the dark voice of the sea
That rose, or even colored by many waves;
If it was only the outer voice of sky
And cloud, of the sunken coral water-walled,
However clear, it would have been deep air,
The heaving speech of air, a summer sound
Repeated in a summer without end
And sound alone. But it was more than that,
More even than her voice, and ours, among
The meaningless plungings of water and the wind,
Theatrical distances, bronze shadows heaped
On high horizons, mountainous atmospheres
Of sky and sea.
It was her voice that made
The sky acutest at its vanishing.
(W. Stevens, from The Idea of Order at Key West)
Stevens
is contemplating what is unique, even defining the ‘coming to being’ of
uniqueness. To me Stevens’ evocation is beautiful – and mysterious. And
demonstrates a way of creating poetic definition and poetic
definitions. I think we cannot come away with MEANING (through there is
some), because as we read and organize his language, dream his images –
any singular logic is defeated. There resides some mystery. And how we
need that!
Addendum: From another interview with James Hillman (pub., “Creative Loafing,” April 11, 1998):
Q. [Chris Bostock:] I’ve wanted to ask this for a long time. Your
famous dictum, of course, is to “follow the image.” You talk about
psychology as an aesthetic principle. Instead of analyzing the meaning
of an image, you say to “follow the image itself.” I have never
understood exactly how this is therapeutic or what resolution means in
this approach. Ultimately, what does it matter, what story we bring to
the image?
A. I am talking about a kind of deconstruction of the image. We turn it until it comes to rest.
Q. Well, how do you know when it has come to rest?
A.
You simply sense it and you learn it. How does a painter know when the
painting is done? Half of being a good painter is knowing when there’s
enough on the canvas. You learn to sense when something is complete.
The feeling of completion, of coming to rest, is the point. I think
motion is a good metaphor for psychology.
Q. You used the word “deconstruction.” It surprises me that you would use it, since it’s a relativizing process, postmodern.
A. Oh, you’re bringing up the question of essentialism.
Q. Well, yes. Deconstruction assumes you can’t know a thing’s origins.
A. Have you ever heard me have any interest in origins?
Q. Actually no, of course not. But I mean “origins” in the sense of the archetypes.
A.
OK, that’s at the heart of my difference with Jung. I don’t use that
word as a noun. That’s why it’s “archetypal” psychology. I am talking
about action, a movement, a process – not about a set of fixed
principles. The origins matter nothing to me. Think of what a different
world this would be if we weren’t trying to learn the origins of the
universe. Can you imagine a more ridiculous undertaking?
Q. You don’t like the word “hope” much.
A.
Hope is an evil. It was the one evil left in the box when Pandora
snapped the lid back shut. Hope is about the unknown future. It’s like
the promise of salvation in the afterlife.
Q. So you’re a pessimist?
A.
Not in the least. In fact, I think I’m quite the optimist. I just think
we should pay attention to what is here right now. It’s this hope thing
that has gotten the planet into such a mess. If we paid attention to
what was true right now, instead of what we hoped would be true in the
future, the world would look very different. … I’m thinking about
something I said at the lectures I gave on aging last week. You
experience this thing growing old of having your prostate enlarge and
you have to get up in the middle of the night several times to go to
the bathroom. Well, you can call this hopeless or you can say you
“hope” it will get better. What I prefer to say is that in old age, I
“wake up to the night.” Do you see? This is a metaphorical reading of
it. I think it’s optimistic. It takes care of the problem and gives my
experience meaning. But it’s not a hopeful position.